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	<title>Comments on: Should We Chase After Christians Who Come to Our Sunday Gathering When They Do Not Feel Welcome?: When They Will Not Come 2</title>
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		<title>By: ssk hizmet dokumu</title>
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		<dc:creator>ssk hizmet dokumu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2011 12:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi david thanks for wrting this one</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi david thanks for wrting this one</p>
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		<title>By: Free Flash Game</title>
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		<dc:creator>Free Flash Game</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 02:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rüya tabirleri</title>
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		<dc:creator>rüya tabirleri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 22:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Choose or Chosen for Community? &#171; Leaving Normal Behind</title>
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		<dc:creator>Choose or Chosen for Community? &#171; Leaving Normal Behind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 14:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of my reaction to Erwin McManus&#8217;s quote was compounded by a blog entry by David Fitch called, &#8220;Should We Chase After Christians Who Come to Our Sunday Gathering When They Do Not Feel Welco....  The post hit a nerve because, well, I find myself in that description. Now, there is much I [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of my reaction to Erwin McManus&#8217;s quote was compounded by a blog entry by David Fitch called, &#8220;Should We Chase After Christians Who Come to Our Sunday Gathering When They Do Not Feel Welco&#8230;.  The post hit a nerve because, well, I find myself in that description. Now, there is much I [...]</p>
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		<title>By: More notes on evangelism proper &#124; Carpe Cakem!</title>
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		<dc:creator>More notes on evangelism proper &#124; Carpe Cakem!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] really lays it down in THIS post about how real community is NEVER easy to break in to. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] really lays it down in THIS post about how real community is NEVER easy to break in to. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Fran Leeman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fran Leeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 15:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, great comments.  There is a balance here... we certainly can&#039;t use being missional as an excuse for not being relational and welcoming, but neither can we go back to chasing down consumer Christians.  In our seeker days, our church did not cultivate much sense of God&#039;s presence in Sunday gatherings, now it is what we gather people around, including open-hearted &quot;seekers&quot;.  I think one of the inherent problems with &quot;seeker-church&quot; was that having sucked people in by appealing to their own self-focus, it was almost impossible then to disciple them in the ways of a God who is telling a bigger story.  I&#039;m not sure we have to resign to shrinking in numbers to be missional, but we definitely have to learn to grow with people who are attracted to the God who is restoring all things (not just our American dream).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, great comments.  There is a balance here&#8230; we certainly can&#8217;t use being missional as an excuse for not being relational and welcoming, but neither can we go back to chasing down consumer Christians.  In our seeker days, our church did not cultivate much sense of God&#8217;s presence in Sunday gatherings, now it is what we gather people around, including open-hearted &#8220;seekers&#8221;.  I think one of the inherent problems with &#8220;seeker-church&#8221; was that having sucked people in by appealing to their own self-focus, it was almost impossible then to disciple them in the ways of a God who is telling a bigger story.  I&#8217;m not sure we have to resign to shrinking in numbers to be missional, but we definitely have to learn to grow with people who are attracted to the God who is restoring all things (not just our American dream).</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 14:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, 

considering that we are in the transition period from Christendom to post-christendom,  there is a complicated relationship with the people known as &#039;greeters&#039; and the community of believers being built w/in a church.  I agree with your statement about not chasing believers (and how this was somewhat necessary for you early planting years to create a base), but the fact remains that many missionaly focused congregations tend to attract the wounded and disenchanted believers.  Although some of these believers may be shoppers, others (including a strong core at Life on the Vine, from Trinity and surrounding schools) are committed people, yet may need some help assimilating into the quasi-community that a church in suburbs offer.

Using the family illustration, these people are the neighbors who watch the thanksgiving dinners through the window and wish to become a part of the feast.

I guess I&#039;m just wondering how we can be inviting to Non-christians, but also not turn away some amazing people because all of the relational effort falls on their shoulders?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, </p>
<p>considering that we are in the transition period from Christendom to post-christendom,  there is a complicated relationship with the people known as &#8216;greeters&#8217; and the community of believers being built w/in a church.  I agree with your statement about not chasing believers (and how this was somewhat necessary for you early planting years to create a base), but the fact remains that many missionaly focused congregations tend to attract the wounded and disenchanted believers.  Although some of these believers may be shoppers, others (including a strong core at Life on the Vine, from Trinity and surrounding schools) are committed people, yet may need some help assimilating into the quasi-community that a church in suburbs offer.</p>
<p>Using the family illustration, these people are the neighbors who watch the thanksgiving dinners through the window and wish to become a part of the feast.</p>
<p>I guess I&#8217;m just wondering how we can be inviting to Non-christians, but also not turn away some amazing people because all of the relational effort falls on their shoulders?</p>
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		<title>By: James Nored</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Nored</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 15:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi David. I &quot;met&quot; you in a phone interview in Dr. Keith Matthew&#039;s class on postmodernism at Fuller last November. I was really looking forward to your class on church planting--I hope that this can be rescheduled soon!

Interesting thoughts here. So, what size do you think the church must stay at to really maintain a sense of community? Also, what do you think of multiple house group type of gatherings that come together say, once a month, for a celebratory worship? Is the sense of community still possible in this context? 

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David. I &#8220;met&#8221; you in a phone interview in Dr. Keith Matthew&#8217;s class on postmodernism at Fuller last November. I was really looking forward to your class on church planting&#8211;I hope that this can be rescheduled soon!</p>
<p>Interesting thoughts here. So, what size do you think the church must stay at to really maintain a sense of community? Also, what do you think of multiple house group type of gatherings that come together say, once a month, for a celebratory worship? Is the sense of community still possible in this context? </p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Linkworthy - 5/10/09 &#124; MattCleaver.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linkworthy - 5/10/09 &#124; MattCleaver.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 16:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] On church hospitality teams - David Fitch says it is a false expectation for people to be integrated into a church community in a few visits. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 22:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sounds more like how it should be - kind of like the gathering is for people who already know Christ and actually being the church happens everyday.

This form of community would take away from the &quot;show&quot; and put more emphasis on being a community and getting to know each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sounds more like how it should be &#8211; kind of like the gathering is for people who already know Christ and actually being the church happens everyday.</p>
<p>This form of community would take away from the &#8220;show&#8221; and put more emphasis on being a community and getting to know each other.</p>
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