Bloggage I Can Sympathize With and More (i.e. With Commentary) #1

A good blog post does not always have to be a post I sympathize with, but it almost always provokes me in ways that further the conversation. Here’s some good blog posts that I mostly sympathize with and why, and some thoughts I had after reading them.

1.) Dunbar’s Number: When Seth Godin says,  writing here (HT here) about “Dunbar’s Number,” that “the typical human being can only have 150 friends” I can sympathize with that!  He says “after that human tribes tend to split.” Once we get bigger the nature of the relationships change. Hmmmmm. Why then do we measure a church’s success in terms of much larger numbers, instead of the times they have split?

2.) On Why I don’t Twit:  I am sorry, but I too just cannot bring myself to join the twittering … My mother told me too many times to quit talking about myself (a bad habit I’m still trying to break). Skye Jethani wrote this excellent post on why he doesn’t tweet and now I am at peace.

3.) Why Pete Rollins is not enough: I like Pete Rollins and for that matter Kester Brewin. I am challenged by their creative critiques of Western church’s cultural captivity to modern frameworks. But in both cases, ‘I feel like’ I’m left hanging, with no place to land, and this is dangerous if you believe God’s work in Christ is about the proliferation of justice in real place and time – i.e. ongoing social relationships. In Zizek’s words, Derridian deconstructionism is always postponing the arrival of the real, the truth. It is “the redemptive promise that is always ‘to come.’ (Ticklish Subject 134ff). We must always be making space for the reassertion of difference and thus we never really land. The proper appreciation of Rollins and Brewer as well as their limitations is expressed well here by Richard Sudworth, to whom Jonny Baker comments here. Bill Kinnon’s post (HT to Bill) is further commentary and Bill is always worth reading.

4.) Scot McKnight on a Third Way for Preaching: I like Scot’s post here that challenges us to see beyond the idea of preaching as the central place for educating believers in the church. He is critiquing Jim Belcher’s book Deep Church which I haven’t read (yet!), but I must, because it certainly is getting alot of good attention. Sorry Jim! but I’ll get to it! I sympathize with Scot when he emphasizes spiritual formation into Scripture must be a total communal weeklong effort. Having said all that, I think both Pagit’s and Belcher’s (from what Scot describes) and Scot’s notion of preaching misses the point. I agree, preaching is not teaching information (traditionalist preaching) and it is not communal discerment (Pagit). Nonetheless, it is a speech act which unfurls the reality of the text by which “truth in brought into being” by the Holy Spirit, and people are imvited into it. Preaching is spiritual formation rightly done within a liturgical context.

5.) Talk about inefficient leadership, but there is something here I am desperate for … what is it? Thanks David Hayward!

6.) Christendom is good? I appreciate and sympathize with counter arguments against Anabaptists for the goods inherent in Christendom. Colin Hansen writes about some of these goods here. Unfortunately I disagree with much of this article. Instead I urge us all to learn about the positives there might be in Christendom from Oliver O Donovan Thanks Halden.

7.) “Youth Groups Ruin Kid’s Lives.” I was once quoted as saying something like that. Now comes Leadership’s piece on the subject. I feel a little better about myself now. (HT Ben Sternke)

8.) Teaching Hope – A practical and challenging engagement with how “hope” is shaped (found here) – by our own Luke McFadden. HT Angela Walker.

9.) Religious Community versus All-Encompassing Community. Chris Smith reviews Jim Belcher’s Deep Church. First of all, Belcher seems to be getting a hearing for his book and I’ve got to get to it. But in lieu of that, I love Chris Smith’s review of it at Englewood, and his distinction of religious versus all-encompassing community. Check it out here.

10.) More Evangelicals Are Leading Their Constituents Into Conversatons about Emerging/Missional Church. Some are productive, some are confusing the issue. I was involved in a great conversation here last week. In my own denomination, at Toccoa Falls College, this one (here, here and here HT Andrew Jones)sounds like its off on the wrong foot? Rob Bell emerging? For all the confusion surrounding the term “missional,” I still think its redeemable with a defined set of theological ‘drivers.’ The term ‘Emerging’ just always seems to confuse things.

Peace DF

12 Comments

12 Responses to “Bloggage I Can Sympathize With and More (i.e. With Commentary) #1”

  1. Great list of links, David! While I am not going to try to talk you into Twitter, I will say that I think Skye’s list (apart from #6) misses the point by a long shot. The medium, while by its nature has issues, should not be mistaken wholesale for the use people make of it. Just saying…

    Again, thanks for the great list of links!

    Peace,
    Jamie

  2. Bill Kinnon says:

    I bet you once said you’d never blog, too!

  3. Matt Tebbe says:

    #8 – can’t find the article by Luke. The link just takes one to Life on the Vine’s website…

    matt

  4. davidfitch says:

    Thanks Matt – I corrected that.
    And to Jamie and Bill – here’s a shocker … are you ready? I got a cell phone – yesterday – after going four years without one.

  5. Andy Rowell says:

    David,
    Like I told Skye in the comments of his post, I would love to see you on Twitter.

    This post is a perfect example of it. You are like me and only have a little you want to post everyday so you jammed all of them into one big post with 10 items. With Twitter, you would probably just tweet each individual item. It really is the same as blogging–just shorter and briefer–sharing with us stuff you recommend reading and quotes that have impacted you.

    Good examples of 1-2 tweet a day Twitterers are:
    - David Neff http://twitter.com/dneff
    - Duke Divinity http://twitter.com/DukeDivinity
    - Alan Hirsch http://twitter.com/alanhirsch
    - Andy Crouch http://twitter.com/ahc

    Almost all your blogroll are on Twitter already. I (http://twitter.com/AndyRowell) follow from your blogroll: McLaren, Kimball, Stetzer, Emergent, Hjalmarson, Out of Ur, Taylor, Andrew Jones, Tony Jones, Myers, McKnight, and Other Journal.

    Like the others here, you are a teacher and can’t help yourself from teaching–the latest venue is Twitter.

  6. LOL! Nice, David. Very nice.

    Peace,
    Jamie

  7. davidfitch says:

    Ok Andy,
    I’m definitely feeling the pressure … but can you give me a few weeks to figure out this cell phone ..er smart phone? :)

  8. Jennifer says:

    I really learned a lot from Deep Church. The one area I saw lacking was the discussion of being in community with other believers. Belcher has been criticized for this, and somewhere (if I find it again I’ll let you know) has responded that it is true he left some things out of the book, especially concerning community. At the beginning of the book Belcher actually talks a lot about community, so I feel this is important to him, just not the focus of this particular book. I’m always longing for one book to answer every question and affirm all of my beliefs, but that is just never going to be the case (short of the Bible of course).

    Thanks for all you are doing, David. My husband and I read your blog, though we haven’t commented.

  9. Jim Martin says:

    David– I enjoy your blog. I always appreciate these kinds of posts and link to significant or/and interesting posts. I echo Andy’s words regarding Twitter. It took me awhile but have come to value Twitter for some of the very reasons that Andy mentions. (Allowing me to post these kinds of links, etc.) Thanks.

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